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Kao sto i napisah u temi o srpskim patriotskim sajtovima, otvaram ovu temu pre svega jer nam se prikljucio i Zeljko Poznanovic, autor koji je na zanimljiv nacin pokusao da razmrsi cvor izmedju Tradicije i pravoslavlja.

Bela Hamvas je svakako autor neverovatne erudicije i Ucitelj Tradicije u najstrozem smislu te titule. U svom delu Scientia sacra II - Hriscanstvo objasnio je smisao hriscanstva na tako ubedljiv nacin da je meni kao citaocu za vjek i vjekov (nadam se) razvejao sve sumnje u neuklopljivost Tradicije i tradicionalizma i hriscanstva (odnosno, pravoslavlja). Zahvlajujuci tome, ali ne samo tome, njegova licnost se u mom licnom ideoloskom panteonu nalazi iznad Genona, Evole (koga naravno nisam ni citao, sem u ono malo eksluzivnih clanaka i Metafizici seksa I) ili Kalajica (kao naseg srpskog Ucitelja).

Veliko zadovoljstvo bi naravno bilo kada bi se u ovu temu ukljucio i Dragoslav Bokan (naravno, ukoliko pobedi zlovolju, sujetu i sve ono sto ga ometa u normalnoj komunikaciji), cije je takodje izuzetno delo 'Ognjeni ljiljani', enciklopedijske vrednosti, dobrim delom prozeto i mislima velikana iz naslova teme.

Ali, otom potom. Sve navedeno ne treba da spreci ni ostale ucesnike da se ukljuce u raspravu. Ja sam procitao, verujem, sve sto je od Hamvasa prevedeno na srpski (sem romana Karneval), a i Ksatrija je mislim procitao sve bitno. Dakle, nema razloga da ne raspravljamo.
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From the Scientia Sacra II. by Hamvas Béla



I. Christianity and traditions

1. Religion, philosophy, science is said to lighten the burdens of life,
while traditions help one to restore oneself.

2. Humans by their nature desire only uninhibited enjoyment of life .
Therefore religion, philosophy and science contribute to obey the thirst of
life, when they intend to lighten the burdens.

3. In fact, the enjoyment of life doesnt prevent one from restoring
oneself. Still the one, who enjoys life, looses himself, and the one, who
intend to restore oneself, must despair of the uninhibited enjoyment of
life.



II. The Gospel and the letters

1. God is not a mystery. The mystery is that there is something outside of God.
God is the evident invisible. The mystery is not God, but the world. As not
the spirit is the mystery, but nature. Just like it is not the soul, but the
body, that bears the mystery. It is not difficult to learn God. Deu et
Jahve, says the prophet ? know God. Gnóthi ton kürion, wrote Paul
apostle.Get know yourself ? this is the translation of the epigraph from
Delphi. The people, who made this translation, must have been narrow and
needy. The original meaning of the seauton of gnoth was most likely the
following: explore your origin from God. When Jesus told about his divine
essence, the Jews started to wail. Jesus quoted from the psalms (82,6) when
he said: Is not it written in your lows, that all of you are gods (elohim
atem), the sons of the supreme?

2. At several places the Gospel tells about the identity of God and the
soul. Most likely there have been many more paragraphs with probably even
more clear statements, but these became removed from the Gospel. The remains
were transformed in that way, that they announce the identity of Jesus
himself and God. These parts are obscure, too. Jesus calls himself mostly
ben-ha-adam, the son of man. This corresponds to the Hindi dzsivá, which
means creature, mortal and nature man. This opposes the enos ha-ruah,
meaning spiritual man according to the Hebrew traditions. Furthermore it has
conflicts with the ben ha-elochim (the son of God) and with the is ha-ruah
(anthrópos pneumatophoros, spirit-bearer man). These were the well-known
anthropological categories of the Hebrew traditions.

3. Jesus identified himself with God. Jesus did not do this to posses himself of the
identity with God. Jesus has never advanced himself among other people, never talked
down on people. This is the reason why he called himself the son of man. All
sons of God are identical. The God-human unity extends everybody. To
distinguish between people in essential things is unmoral. Jesus calls upon
mankind to take up the identity of God-man. He says the same, but formulates
it differently, what the Vedanta says: aham brahma aszmi ? I am God. Father
and I, we are one - ani vha-av echad. Or just like the Arabic traditions
claim: ana hoa. I am that.



III. The Antichrist

1. The Antichrist, says Ferdiand Ebner, is the strongest manifestation of
the spiritual turbulence, created by the Gospel. This turbulence started
right at that moment, when Jesus spelled his first word.

-This turbulence started among the Jewish people, who fought for keeping
their rank, while they lived in the entrancement of vocation and in the dual
oppression of the Romans and of their own mighty. Among Jews, who were
waiting for the Liberator.
- But this turbulence was present among the disciples as well, who were
sleeping more often, than they were awake.

What they call historical Christianity in opposition to the Gospel, is
nothing else, but the result of that enormous irritation what Jesus induced.
It has been a two thousand years struggle for not to fulfil what the Gospel
stands for. Jesus sets man into a world, what no longer can be neglected; in
front of a divine, who no longer can be avoided. He sets humans on such a
high grade of their own being, what no longer can be ignored. The best way
of deviation seems to be to pretend that nothing has happened.

2. The first action is, that one tears oneself off from it. Even though one knows, that
this action is the only one seriousness not just in ones own life, but in
the whole mankinds eternity. This is the final order of everyones fate.
Humans are being disturbed in their own corruption, and therefore humans are
being disturbed in their earthy comfort. Man should do, what is the
simplest, but he doesnt do that. He doesnt recognize what is the only
meaningful. And he doesnt accept it, despite of the fact, that he knows,
that everything else is void. This is that enormous darkness, what John
talks about. The darkness, what can not take the light in. Because the
darkness, says Baader, is not the absence of the light, but it is the terror
lucis, the fear from the light. Man is at edge of having the insight. And he
plays through all of the possibilities just to avoid to do that one thing.

3. The teachings of the Gospel are disappearing in the opposition of the Gospel within a short while. The opposition is fully hopeless and desperate. But Christianity can not be seen anymore. Only those couple of immaculate and bright heads are visible, who stands alone. Soon we know about the
existence of Christianity only by the irritation. We know, that there is
something, what they suppress by a general agreement. Nothing indicates it
neither in religion, or in clergy, or in the society. It is being present
only as denied and betrayed. It is being present as Antichrist. This makes
the history and motivates the happenings. The more the crowed, that
surrounds it, is loud and victorious, more they forget the origin. And when
Constantine the great raised the Christian religion to power, there was
already almost nothing to spoil.


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advokat Zeljko Poznanovic ::
????? ? ???? ?????? ????? ? ??????? ???????????? ??? ? ???? ?? ?????? ???? ????? ????? ????????? ???? ?????? ? ???? ??????.
?? ?? ?? ??.?? ??? ?? ???? ???? ?????? ?? ?? ??? ????.


????? ??? ???? ?? ?? ?????? ?????????? ?? ????? ?? ?? ?????? ? ???? ???? ???? (??????) ??? ????????? ?????????. ????????? ??? ????? ?? ??????. ? ?? ?? ?? ??? ????????? ?? ?? ?????? ?? ????? ?????? ??? ????? ????????, ?? ???? ??? ???.

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ПорукаПослао: Сре Сеп 28, 2005 10:37 am    Наслов: Одговорити са цитатом

??? ?????? ???? ???????:

http://www.douklia.net/topola/01/02-hamvas.html

http://www.douklia.net/topola/01/06-hamvas2.html
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??????? ???? ???? ??????? ? ?????? "????????? ????????":

http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Kultura/Hamvas-je-Sokrat-20-veka.sr.html
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